Re: [tied] Re: Six, -ts-

Carioca Portuguese spelling is /us^/ for -os. But almost all Brazilian regional accents and Portuguese has /u/ for final /o/, with the exception of Southern Brazilian accents.

Joao SL

Rio

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From: Miguel Carrasquer

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Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Six, -ts- > -ks-

On Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:31:27 +0000, tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote: >1) Portuguese has /-us^/ for the spelling <-os>. Which Portuguese? Not Galician/Northern Portuguese or Brazilian Portuguese (except Carioca). And how is a modern (post 17th c.) Portuguese development relevant to medieval spelling? >2) The usual "path of disappearance" for /s/ is > /s^/ > /h/ > zero. I don't think so. >3) Both <pouchin> and <cushion> involve /s/ after /u/. No. All these words involve /s/ after /i/. >I think it would be strange for French final /s/'s to disappear >abruptly. It didn't. It disappeared first before a voiced consonant (by way of s > z > D > 0), then (11th. c) before voiceless consonants (by way of /h/), finally (13th. c.) in final position, except in liaison, where it survives until today (as /z/, of course, not as /z^/). ======================= Miguel Carrasquer Vidal mcv@...