Re: Albaian "to speak"

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 30806
Date: 2004-02-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> Speaking about Albanian verbs which means "to speak", the principal
> entries in my dictionary are the verbs "thotë" and "flet". I would
like
> to know which is the proposed etymology for these two verbs since
they
> appears to have cognates in Rom. as well. For instance the
root "fle-"
> appears in Rom. in the following words with the meaning "speak" or
> "mouth" as organ of speaking.
>
> fleancã= mouth
> flecãri= to chat, to speak Smalltalk
> fleac= non important word, things.
>
> The words are not classified etymologically, they are tagged with
the
> well known "unknown etymology".
> Seing the Albanian "flet" which means "to speak", it doesn't appear
> anymore as without cognates and hard to find an etymology for
this. I
> wonder about the nasalised form in "fleancã" (mouth) if this has an
> Reflex in Alb. as well.
>
> Piotr, if you are reading this.. what do you think of conj. pers I
sg of
> Alb. verb "flet" which is "flas"?
> Can it be this "*fle_c_" > "fla_s_ or the "s" here has an another,
clear
> explanation and there is no connection of "k" > "s" in that
context?
>
> Alex
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According to Beekes, Alb. <fjalë> is derived, in accordance with
Albanian soundlaw /*sp/ > /f/ and /*e/ > /ja/ in closed syllable
form PIE *spel- 'to speak aloud, to tell' (Pokorny, (s)pel-), until
<them> is supposed to be derived from PIE *k^esmi-, but for Mr. Eric
Hamp this etymology is not convinced.
Alb. verb <flas>, probably reduced form of <folas> (cf.
folje 'verb') is perhaps derived from an lengthened e-grade *spe:l-.
Much interesting is noun <kopallë> 'nonsense, gibberish, idel talk',
probably prefixed form (cf. ko-pil 'bastard', ko-teshë 'bad
clothes'), besides <pall> 'to shout, to blare', today remodeled in
<pëllas>, like <fol> to <fëlas>, due to analogy leveling of the verb
in -as.

Konushevci