Re: Albanian (3)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci" > >
> > > Piotr, can it be in initial poisition the PIE *s was too lost

in

> > Albanian ?
> > > Is there any reflex of PIE *sekW- in Albanian?
> > >
> > > Alex
> > ************
> > There are three roots in *sekW-: *sekW-1 'to follow'. *sekW-2 'to
> > perceive, see' and *sekW-3 'to say, utter'.
> > To my view, *sekW-1 'to follow' yields Alb. gjuej/gjuaj 'to hunt,
> > shoot' < gjuonj < gjounj < *so:nyo < *sokW-enyo. <gjah> 'hunt

(ing),

> > shoot(ing)', derived from suffixed o-grade form *sokW-so.
> > Derivatives includes also:
> <gjuetar> 'hunter', '<gjueti> 'hunting' ,
> > etc.
> >
> > Konushevci
>
> If I am right that in a certain period of time the ancient PIE *s
> became sonoroized in /z/ in a certain phonological medium in
> substratual words, then we have a very interesting appearance since
> we know that the reflex of PIE "*kW/+" (as per Piotr) is "c^" in

Rom.

>
> thus, sekW3/+ > *zec^. The meaning of PIE word should be "to say"

and

> the meaning in the certain Balkan Language should be "to say" at

well.

>
> the phonetic asspect of "*zec^" does appear very appropiate to
> Rom. "zice". Interesting path I would say....
>
> Alex

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Really I don't know (Che mi lo dice?!), but I would like to ask
another members, what do they think about possibility that Alb.
<ndjek> 'to follow, chase, pursue' should be rather from prefixed
lenient form of *sekW-1 > ant-bhi- + (sh)jek > ndjek 'to follow' than
of PIE *h1en- + tekW-?

Konushevci