Re: Romanian Development of /st/ (was: Against ... 'Albanian Loans

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> Richard Wordingham wrote:
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...>

wrote:

> >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:03:39 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...>

wrote:

> >>
> >>> The working out of "crãciun" from "creationem" looks very fuss
> >>> regarding the vocalism. It is not known in Rom. that /ea/

or /ja/

> >>> develop to
> > a; what do
> >>> your rules do with "e" or "j" here? Why does it get lost?
> >>
> >> /j/ is regularly lost after /r/: *grEvu > *grievu > greu.
> >
> > And we can add _mãcelar_ 'butcher' < macella:riu(s) 'meat-seller,
> > victualler' for the loss of more ancient yods.
> >
> > Richard.
>
> wrong
>
> the final -iu has been simplified in "u". The forms "-iu" has been

keept

> until almost XVIII century:
> macellarius > mãcelariu , modern Rom. mãcelar

Is -rie- (one syllable) attested in words like _greu_? As far as I
can tell, in modern Romanian the vowels of -rie- are in separate
syllables.

Richard.