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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:03:39 +0100, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
>
> >The working out of "crãciun" from "creationem" looks very fuss
regarding the
> >vocalism. It is not known in Rom. that /ea/ or /ja/ develop to
a; what do
> >your rules do with "e" or "j" here? Why does it get lost?
>
> /j/ is regularly lost after /r/: *grEvu > *grievu > greu.
Why did you quote the seemingly simpler development:
"4) /E/ > /ie/, except after /r/ (e.g. *grevum > greu). The /i/
becomes a feature of the consonant after k/g/t/d: tEstu > tiestU >
t,est; gElu > gielu > gel)"
in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/18147 . Was it
merely for 'simplicity'?
In answer to one of Alex's comments this morning or last night,
roughly speaking, /E/ is the precursor of /ie/. However, there are
exceptions. See the list of ultimate developments at the end of the
same message. And we are turning up evidence that even word-
inital /e/ could become /ie/ - like me, Orbis Latinus (
http://www.orbilat.com/Modern_Romance/Balkano-
Romance/Rumanian/Rumanian.html#Phonology ) attributes it to Slavic
influence.
Richard.