Re: [tied] Slavic placenames

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:

> 19-01-04 12:32, andelkod wrote:
>
>> Amateur question regarding slavic root *lub or *lob meaning skull,
>> cranium (lubanja, lobanja) and from the same root also 'lubenica'
>> (watermellon).
>> The meaning can be even an exposed and visible hill.
>> So, placenames like Lubenik, Lubenice, Lubnica, Lubenka, Lubyanka,
>> and even Ljubljana and Ljubelj, I suspect, can be connected with this
>> root (locations with exposed and visible hill).
>> Placenames like Lomnica could also be result of development from
>> Lobnica and Lovnik from Lobnik.
>> Am I wrong?
>
> You're confusing several different etymological bases, such as *lUbU ~
> *lUbI 'head, skull', *lubU 'bast, strip of wood or bark', *ljubiti
> 'love', and *lomiti 'break'. No connections, just similarity.
>
> Piotr
>

A propos this "*ljubiti.

a iubi = to love
ibovnica= mistress

DEX gives both as loans from Slavic as follow:
a iubi < Slavic "ljubiti"
ibovnic < "ljubovIniku"

to me it seems curious that once "ljub-" is rendered as "iub-" in Rom.
and once as "ibov-", this is why I assumed that " a iubi is not a loan
from Slavic but I don't exclude a influence of Slavic on a local word
here.
The another "lubu/lUbI" are presents in Rom. as "lubeniTã" as well.
About "lubU" and "lomiti" I am not aware to be present in some words in
Rom. but I can be wrong and they are.

Alex