Re: [tied] PIE -> Dacian : Method (part 1)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> <a_konushevci@...> wrote:

> > To my view, <bra-d> 'fir-tree' is suffixed form in -t/-d, making
> > diminutives in Albanian (see also Çabej SGJ VIII, Camaj AW), so
> > primary form must be *bhro-, comparable with Slavic <bor> from
> > metathetic form *bhro-.

Lapsus calami? The Slavic development is *bHro > bVrW, where V and
the
existence of W varies from language to language.

> <bredh-i> is just a singularized plural of
> > <brad>, which is an intermediary form, preserved in Romanian.
> > Other derivatives are: breshtë < bredhshtë 'fir-tree forest'

(cf.

> > vjeshtë < vjellshtë 'autumn', vëneshtë/vëresht < venë/verë + -
> > eshtë), etc. All these forms go back to PIE *bher-2 'bright,
> brown',

> I have some doubts here regarding the "bher-2" because all the
> reflexes of *bher- in Rom. are without methathesis and are

reflected

> as "pâr-".The requested root here is something with "bhr-/br-" at

the

> begin of the word, but not "bhVr-"

Try zero-grading.

Dare I ask for your derivatives of *bher-2 starting in <pâr->? I
suspect
they will be immediately challenged, for I cannot think of a likely
route
that would show that effect. (The nearest possibility is the
operation of
Grassman's law in Greek).

Richard.