Re: [tied] Geiss [Re: correction]

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 29801
Date: 2004-01-19

19-01-04 13:42, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <george.st@...> wrote:
>> Etym.: according to Wahrig, < OHG geiz. Akin to das
>> Kitz < OHG diminutival chizzi/kizzi(n) < Germanic
>> *kittina < Germanic *kidja, influenced by Germanic
>> *gaitina < PIE *ghaidino-
>>
>
> Let me summarise: for goat there are the PIE roots *h2aig^-, *ghaed-
> and *ghit- (?), and some similar ones in Semitic, and they are
> definitely not related?

We have the following 'goat' words:

1. *h2ag^o-, looking like a transparent IE formation (from *h2ag^-
'drive'), best attested in Balto-Slavic and Indo-Iranian.

2. *gHaid(-o)-, best attested in Germanic and Latin. The possibility of
an Afroasiatic loan cannot be exclused, but the proposed formal
relationship involves ad hoc manipulations.

3. *h2aig^-, attested in Greek, Armenian, Albanian and perhaps in
Iranian (a derivative). This form looks like a cross between the first
two (pace Pokorny, who suspects an "orientalishes Kulturwort").

4. *kapro-s, the original term for a billy-goat (Lat. capra is a derived
feminine)

5. Miscellaneous other forms. Germanic *kidja- < *gidH-jo- or *git-jó-
and the related diminutive *kitti:n-; unknown origin, perhaps borrowed
into Albanian as <qidh>, but unrelated to Alb. <kac, keç, keth, ...>
(several dialectal variants). The latter appears to be related to Lat.
catulus and to Germanic words such as ON haðna 'young goat', MHG hatele
'goat', all from *kat- 'young animal'. Germanic *tig-/*tikki:n- (Ger.
Ziege) is perhaps a metathetic variant of *kid-/kitti:n-, and is equally
unclear.

6. Misreconstructions: Pokorny's kag^o- is one.

Piotr