Re: [tied] Slavic placenames

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "andelkod" <andelkod@...> wrote:

> O.K, but placenames like Lubenik and Ljubljana probably cannot be
> derived from *lubU 'bast, strip of wood or bark' and neither from
> *ljubiti > 'love'.
> Oldest attested name for Ljubljana is Luwigana (slavic form) and
> Laibach (german form). Landscape around Ljubljana is dominated by

an

> exposed round hill, so, I tend to connect Ljubljana with

*lUbI 'head,

> skull', rather then love. Why not? What love can have with one
> medieval burg located on top of hill?
>
> I do not insist on Lomnica from Lobnica, but that also, could be
> possibility.
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > 19-01-04 12:32, andelkod wrote:
> >
>
> > You're confusing several different etymological bases, such as
> *lUbU ~
> > *lUbI 'head, skull', *lubU 'bast, strip of wood or bark',

*ljubiti

> > 'love', and *lomiti 'break'. No connections, just similarity.
> >
> > Piotr

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If we take in mind that some Slavic names are calque linguistique,
like Illyrian river names Ulka > Sl. Vuka, Ad Salinas > Tuzla (turk.
<tuz> 'salt'), Argentaria > Srebernica, I can't see any reason why
Ljubljana couldn't be also calque of Illyrian Em-ona, derived
probably from PIE *am(m)a- 'mother, love'.

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