09-12-03 13:41, altamix wrote:
> there is no impediment of having all the atomic numerals from PIE
> too. But absolutely none. Even for "unu" we have seen the evolution
> of oi > u in Thracian, thus even this only problematic shows no
> problem at all.
[Help! I need a translator from Alex-speak.]
Dear Alex, of course the Romanian numerals come from PIE. Not directly,
to be sure, but via Proto-Italic, Latin, Proto-Balkan Romance and Old
Romanian. This isn't contradicted by any evidence known to me. The Latin
numerals yield the Romanian ones as straightforwardly as one might wish.
But you feel an urge to derive them (also from PIE) via an uncharted
alternative route, involving languages that neither you nor anybody else
knows much about. Fine, have your fun. But since the intermediate
protoforms that have to be posited for Romanian numerals are virtually
indistinguishable from Latin, please consider the possibility that your
"Thracian" (the main source of the core vocabulary of Romanian) is in
fact Latin.
You can escape from sound knowledge into a Thracian dreamworld if you so
wish -- who can prevent you from wasting your own time? But your
personal utopia is really taking up too much _public_ space on this
forum. There are lots of "already discussed" topics that you raise again
and again. If you go on starting more silly debates like "Are Romanian
<unu, doi, trei> Thracian?", I'm afraid I'll have to restrict your
posting priviledges.
Piotr