Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law

From: Alwin K.
Message: 26165
Date: 2003-10-01

Oops sorry,
I now see that the translation 'rope' which I saw
somewhere was wrong from Germ. Tau. So the semantical
connection between the words is likely. Nevertheless
the Schwebe-ablaut remains puzzling, unless we assume
an analysis *h1er-s- (so indeed belonging with *h1er-
'to move').
Beekes in his Introduction (p 182) seems to
reconstruct the words as a *-(e)h2- stem, and it looks
like he explains the absence of Brugmann by assuming
that originally *-(e)h2-stems have had zero-grade
suffixes as well (e.g. gen.sg. *Hros-h2-os). Perhaps
absence of Brugmann was generalized because of these
cases?




--- "Alwin K." <alwinmail@...> wrote:
> > I'm not sure about the best derivation of <ras�:>
> > 'moisture'. It must be the same thing as BSl.
> > *rasa:, so anything like *h1res-�h2 is ruled out.
>
> I do not understand why Skt. ras�- must be the same
> thing as BSl. *rasa: and Lat. ro:s. The latter words
> mean 'rope' which in my view is semantically very
> far
> from Skt. ras�- 'juice'. I would seperate these
> words,
> and just regard Skt. ras�- as belonging to the root
> *h1ers- 'to flow'. Then one has the problem of
> Schwebeablaut: a full grade *h1ers- is well attested
> in e.g. Hitt. �rs-, Skt. ars.ati, so a second full
> grade *h1res- (or h1ros-) is problematic anyway.
> Perhaps secondary gun.a (like e.g. rajat�-
> 'silver-coloured' from unattested *r.jat�- 'silver',
> while original full-grade �s *h2erg^- like in
> arjuna-). If Skt. ras�- shows a secondary gun.a then
> it is likely that the word is too recent anyway to
> have participated in Brugmann's Law.
>
> Gr. Alwin
>
>
>
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