From: alex
Message: 25778
Date: 2003-09-12
>> <lapër> 'dewlap', wattle, gill',common suffix in some substratual and non-substratual verbs : a(s)muTa,
>
> This indeed seems to have elements in common with
> Rum. <lãbãrtzat>, as far as "flabbiness, floppiness" and
> figuratively "sloppiness" are relevant. (Anyway, something
> opposite to "firm, steadfast and disciplined".)
> If any relationship at all, then the -tz- remains to be explained
> (the final -at being only the participle ending, also used in
> adjectives). Seemingly, no attestations for an inferred initial
> *lãpãrtzat.
>
>> Konushevci
>
> George