Re: Ducks and Souls

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > 10-09-03 16:42, tgpedersen wrote:
> >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> > > <piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
> > >> No need to posit a borrowed root; the word is widely attested
> (cf.
> > >> Lith. ántis and Slavic *o~ty), and all its reflexes derive
> > >> unproblematically from the forms given above.
> > >
> > > Tell Schrijver.
> >
> > No need either. The etymology works well enough, and I don't see

the

> > 'duck' word among Schrijver's examples.
>
> You won't get off that easy. Either all Schijver's examples should

be

> rewritten with initial *H2-, in which case there is no 'language of
> bird names' or the duck is one of them.
>


> > >> The pun won't work in any known form of Celtic, since the

Celtic

> > >> 'duck' words are _not_ derived from the root in question, or
> > >
> > > We are talking about the surviving inscriptions in Halstatt
> Celtic,
> > > right? :-)
> >
>

McBain's Dictionary:

http://www.ceantar.org/Dicts/MB2/mb01.html

àinich
panting, also aonach; root a@-n-, long form of an, breath (see
anail); Sanskrit ânana, mouth ("breather").

anail
breath, Irish and Old Irish anál, Welsh anadl, anal, Cornish anal,
Breton alan, Celtic anatlâ; an, breathe, Gothic anan, to breathe,
Sanskrit anila, wind. See anam also.

anam
soul, so Irish, Old Irish anim (d. anmin), Cornish enef, Middle
Breton eneff, Breton ene, Celtic animon- (Stokes); Latin animus,
anima; Greek &Ga&'/nemos, wind.


English-Irish Dictionary of Bird Names

http://gofree.indigo.ie/~cocaomh/English-Irish%20Dictionary.htm

Swallow

... Áinleog, Áinle [orig. Fannall, Fáinneáil ? Fluttering or
Circling]; ...

Swift

... Áinle [see Swallow]


(but is it close enough semantically and phonologically?)

Torsten