Re: [tied] Terminology (Re: Piotr-)

From: alex
Message: 25494
Date: 2003-09-03

Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> 02-09-03 23:22, alex wrote:
>
>> The birds are mostly named because of other properties but not
>> because of the colour.
>
> Really? So names like "blackbird", "(robin) redbreast" and "greylag"
> are atypical?

So far I know yes, they are atypical.

>
>> Question: is there in any other IE language the story about the
>> babies which are beared to the parents by a certain stork and if
>> yes, where / when was attested first time this story?
>
> I think this nursery myth originated somewhere in Germany, but I have
> no idea when it was recorded for the first time. By the way, what's
> the traditional attitude to storks in your contry? In Poland, which
> has the largest population of them, being the nesting home of about
> 25% of the world's white storks, they enjoy universal sympathy and
> are completely synanthropic, always nesting on roofs, chimneys or
> specially prepared poles (with lowercase p), and returning to them
> every spring. As far as I know, it has "always" been so, and there's
> a tradititional prohibition against disturbing or harming storks.
> Destroying the nest of a pair of storks would be comparable in its
> odiousness to shooting an albatross. I wonder if this is something
> local or more widespread.
>
> Piotr

The same in Rom. The storks are seen as benefical birds, they are not
considerating to do any harm. If there the story with the stork and the
babys is created in a new time in the German space, then is an
interesting thing the tradition got almost everywhere .
And because the people stil use this story, how one will think to kill
them or to harm them? If there is no stork anymore, then there is no
bird more to bring the babies to the human kind, though, we shell die
out:-)
It seems the simpathy which is showed for these birds has maybe
something to do with our traditional stories as Europeans; I asked Lyn a
colleague of me, she is comming from China. There a such story about the
storks bringing kids is not known.
I wonder if in the Iranic-Indic space the story is known.

Alex