Re: Enclosed Places

>
> How far back we can push the loan into Balto-Slavonic? Presumably

it could

> go back to before the break-up of Satem. In which case, could the

Albanian

> form _garth_ 'hedge' be inherited from Common Satem? Pokorny does

propose

> Indo-Iranian cognates, viz. Sanskrit gr.ha- 'house' and Avestan

g&r&a- m.

> 'cave (as some sort of dwelling)'. Moreover, I don't recall anyone
> contradicting Sergei when he said, Albanian _garth_ is a native

word (

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/14192 ). Is there

any reason

> that this (or its Dacian cognate) need not be the source of the

Romanian

> word?
>

I wonder what happens when I throw Semitic q-r-t "enclosed place"
into this melée? Møller in his juxtaposition of Semitic and
IndoEuropean roots deals sytematically with an IE dh/t etc
alternation (that should take care of _hortus_) and perhaps that
alternation, or perhaps the general tone of dissatisfaction of this
discussion should taken as a sign that this is a loan.

More generally, it seems to be composed of the *k-r- (*kW-l, *g-l-
etc etc) root (see Bomhard for a flood of these "turn, wrap, rotate"
roots, another sign it was borrowed) plus a passive participle
forming *-t- or -dH-, thus "something that has been encircled" (cf
Latin cardo "axis"; cor, cordis "heart (center of the body)".

Torsten