Re: [tied] Re: Catunari

27-06-03 20:13, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:

> First, Alb. suffix -ar is used to build: "1. Nouns from nouns with
> different meaning; 2. nomina agentis; 3. adjectives from nouns and
> verbs; 5. augmentativs and 5. diminutives. ...

That's all very well, but we were discussing the etymology of the
suffix, not its modern functions. A suffix borrowed from Slavic or from
mediaeval Romance may have developed all these functions easily. There
are other Slavic suffixes that combine freely with native Albanian
bases, e.g. -ishtë, -kë and -ak.

> the adjective <i blerë> 'pale' < *bl@...

What's this got to do with *-a:rius!?

> And, as you see, it's function is not only occaputional and
> habitative one.
> Albanian verbs <mbaj> 'to keep, to hold, tu support' and <bart> 'to
> carry, to transport, to take to' are completly different verbs from
> different origin and meaning.

'Support' and 'carry' are _completely different_?? The derivatives of
PIE *bHer- and their reflexes in lots of languages express both
meanings! As regards their origin, the etymology of <mbaj> < m- +
*-bHor-ejo: isn't mine, though I happen to accept it (and I'm not alone,
I presume). I took it from Cimochowski.

Piotr