[tied] Re: Catunari

About suffix -ishte, very productive in many Albanian words, I doubt
that is from Slavic origin. If we accept as a true fact that Slavic
suffix -lo (ogleda-lo 'mirror', klepalo 'eyelid', trup-lo 'trunk'),
is shortened form of verb <bilo> 'was', I don't know why we must
deny that Alb. suffix - ishte is not from the same verb <ishte> was!

Konushevci
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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:

> 27-06-03 20:13, Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> > First, Alb. suffix -ar is used to build: "1. Nouns from nouns

with

> > different meaning; 2. nomina agentis; 3. adjectives from nouns

and

> > verbs; 5. augmentativs and 5. diminutives. ...
>
> That's all very well, but we were discussing the etymology of the
> suffix, not its modern functions. A suffix borrowed from Slavic or

from

> mediaeval Romance may have developed all these functions easily.

There

> are other Slavic suffixes that combine freely with native Albanian
> bases, e.g. -ishtë, -kë and -ak.
>
> > the adjective <i blerë> 'pale' < *bl@...
>
> What's this got to do with *-a:rius!?
>
> > And, as you see, it's function is not only occaputional and
> > habitative one.
> > Albanian verbs <mbaj> 'to keep, to hold, tu support' and

<bart> 'to

> > carry, to transport, to take to' are completly different verbs

from

> > different origin and meaning.
>
> 'Support' and 'carry' are _completely different_?? The derivatives

of

> PIE *bHer- and their reflexes in lots of languages express both
> meanings! As regards their origin, the etymology of <mbaj> < m- +
> *-bHor-ejo: isn't mine, though I happen to accept it (and I'm not

alone,

> I presume). I took it from Cimochowski.
>
> Piotr