Re: [tied] Re: Yers

From: george knysh
Message: 23019
Date: 2003-06-10

--- fortuna11111 <fortuna11111@...> wrote:

>
> I have addressed this. I would add, still the
> Protobulgarians had
> a culture of governance which allowed them to unite
> all those
> peoples and survive as a nation for more than 13
> centuries in
> the Balkans.

*****GK: Well the Proto-Bulgarians arrived on the
territory of present day Bulgaria about a century
after the Slavs, whom they conquered. They remained
distinct from their Slavic subjects and associates
(who outnumbered them by a considerable margin) for
about two centuries. From the 10th c. the term
"Bulgarian" refers to a new Slavic-speaking amalgam.
THAT is what survived until our times. The
Proto-Bulgarians were assimilated by the 10th c. I see
no evidence that it is THEIR "culture of governance"
which was responsible for the historical rebirths of
Bulgaria. The "Bulgaria" known to my Old Ukrainian
ancestors in the early 12th c. was ruled by Pecheneg
warlords, and the 2nd Bulgarian State was largely the
creation of subsequently Slavicized Vlachs.******

I am naturally interested in this
> culture. I want to
> know more about it.

*****GK: This is perfectly understandable. I have the
same attitude towards the history of the Late (Ulch)
Huns, whose "culture of governance" helped to
"organize" the territory of Central Ukraine in the
5th-8th c.******


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