Re: Ban_Pan_

From: tolgs001
Message: 21863
Date: 2003-05-14

>But the BAN emerge only after the contact with
>the Carolingian Empire. The croats are not the
>only example; as I said on 9 May, there are other
>2 cases where this phenomena occurred.

Also see the post (1999), Subject: Re: Caucasoid
Turks/Bulgars, by Mr. Karloukovski
(-> Groups.Google.com)
Message-ID: <7brkt0$13j@...>

Look for "tarkan zhupan" and "ban," as titles/ranks
within the Bulgar (proto-Bulgarian) ruling class. BTW,
quasi-contemporary with the Merowingian & Carolingian
epochs of the Frankish Empire.

(main idea in that thread, on sci.lang,
sci.arcaeology, sci.anthropology: these terms might
have had Iranic or Caucasoid origin.)

>S o r i n

George