george knysh wrote:
> --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...>
> wrote:
>>>> I agree that Alb. dalta 'chisel' and probabley
>> Rom. too can't be
>>> Slavic loans.
>
>>>> Rather we may talk in other direction: that
>> Slavic dlato through
>> metathesis of liquids is a loan from Albanian or
>> Romanian language
>>>
>>> (Piotr) So, I suppose is OPr. dalptan ;-)?
>
> *****GK:1. The primal Slavic form *dla/o/to existed
> prior to 800 AD
> 2. At that time Albanian and Romanian would have been
> located south of the Danube, in the highlands, among
> South Slavic dialects
> 3. The pre-metathetic contacts would thus have lasted
> approximately 250 years (perhaps longer). Plenty of
> time for the borrowing to occur. Piotr's analysis
> sounds quite convincing.******
1) if the primar form was *dla/o/to everything you wrote down makes no
sense. I guess you intended to say that the primar form should have been
*da/lo/to
1)the loans into Romanian which are recognized to be slavic shows the
caractheristics of the modern slavic languages.
In this case everything speaks about a stronger contact between slavs
and romanians _after_ the slavic metathesis. See Vlad, Dragomir,
vlãdicã, crai etc.
2) there is very improbable that 2-3 words to have been borrowed in this
time and even thes to remain in the Rom. Lang. like "daltã" "baltã" and
"gard".If these words have been slavic they MUSt have been spoked dalta
& balta for having rom. daltã and baltã
3)the name for slavs in Romanian is "schiau" and this is not because of
Latin "sclabus" > schiau .See for this the article here:
http://www.jesus1053.com/l2-wahl/l2-autoren/l3-Uwe-Topper/slawentum.html
4)the socalled "old-slavic" which was supposed as well as "daco-slavic"
are just some tries to explain the words which sounds " slavic" into
Romanian. ( see mlãdia= to modulate which is supposed to derie from
slavic "mladU"= young)
5)when you will demonstrate how some poor scatered romanians will
asimilate the big masses of Slavs in the North of Danube we can talk
about any location South of Danube of the Romanians.