From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 20361
Date: 2003-03-26
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <gs001ns@...> wrote:
> >to invite.. don't worry, I seen worse regarding the semantism:))
> >The latin comparare= to compare should have give in Rom "cumpãra"
> >= to buy, forgeting the word "para"= money...eh.. this is a nice
> >hobby:) para= turkish word, etymology of Rom. word so my
> >DEX (no idea what means in turkish this word , mybe this means
> >too money).
>
> Have a look at the vocabulary of some Romance languages
> to see whether there are correspondents for the Romanian
> "cumpara + cumparare + cumparat".
>
> As far as the coin name "pará" is concerned:
> your DEX must inform you at least that "para" (the 2nd
> syllable is stressed) was a certain coin, namely for
> instance 1/100 of 1 leu .
>
> Then Google'll reveal to you various paras, either Turkish
> or from other countries. (Arab "bara" seems to mean
> "silver". The initial Turkish "pará" was a silver coin and
> circulated as such in the Romanian lands as well in the 18th
> century.) E.g.:
>
> Moldavia:
>
> "parale"
> http://www.geocities.com/monedaria/dictionar.htm
> 18th century
> http://www.geocities.com/romaniancoins/1para.html
>
> Egypt, 4 para (1863)
> http://www.muenzen-hardelt.de/aeg-4p63.html
>
> Turkey:
>
> (from a good introduction into the subj. of
> Turkish numismatics:)
>
> <<Im Gegensatz zum Reichtum in Europa, wozu mehrere
> Tonnen Silber und Gold beitrug, die von spanischen und
> portugiesischen Seeleuten aus Amerika gebracht wurden,
> verlor die osmanische akçe aufgrund der Inflation zwischen
> 1585 und 1640 an Wert, so dass mehrere Münzstätten
> geschlossen werden mussten. In der Herrschaftszeit von
> Murat IV. wurde die para" genannte Münze geprägt, die
> leichter als die akçe war. Es wurden nur noch in
> Konstantiniye und in den südlichen Provinzen Münzen
> geprägt.>>
> http://www.kultur.gov.tr/portal/tarih_de.asp?belgeno=5353
>
> Yugoslavia
> http://www.nbj.yu/english/7_0.htm
>
> George
>
> PS: there is no link betw. "cumparare" & "pará"
> other than the fact that once Romanians, too, made
> payments for goods and services by spending "paras"
> (in Rumanian, plural, "parale) among many other coins
> they had in use (both their own, minted on Romanian
> territory, or issued abroad, e.g. by Austria, Russia,
> Poland, Hungary).