To buy & the coin "para" [Re: Diana]

From: Daniel J. Milton
Message: 20361
Date: 2003-03-26

'Para' < Turkish < Persian 'parah' "piece", "small coin".
"Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin", the handwriting on the wall at
Belshazzar's feast, was interpreted by my namesake Daniel as "MENE,
God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it; TEKEL, Thou art
weighed in the balance and found wanting; PERES Thy kingdom is
divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. More directly, "a
minah, a minah, a shekel, and a para", could be taken as a comment
on the relative worth of four successive kings.
Dan

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <gs001ns@...> wrote:
> >to invite.. don't worry, I seen worse regarding the semantism:))
> >The latin comparare= to compare should have give in Rom "cumpãra"
> >= to buy, forgeting the word "para"= money...eh.. this is a nice
> >hobby:) para= turkish word, etymology of Rom. word so my
> >DEX (no idea what means in turkish this word , mybe this means
> >too money).
>
> Have a look at the vocabulary of some Romance languages
> to see whether there are correspondents for the Romanian
> "cumpara + cumparare + cumparat".
>
> As far as the coin name "pará" is concerned:
> your DEX must inform you at least that "para" (the 2nd
> syllable is stressed) was a certain coin, namely for
> instance 1/100 of 1 leu .
>
> Then Google'll reveal to you various paras, either Turkish
> or from other countries. (Arab "bara" seems to mean
> "silver". The initial Turkish "pará" was a silver coin and
> circulated as such in the Romanian lands as well in the 18th
> century.) E.g.:
>
> Moldavia:
>
> "parale"
> http://www.geocities.com/monedaria/dictionar.htm
> 18th century
> http://www.geocities.com/romaniancoins/1para.html
>
> Egypt, 4 para (1863)
> http://www.muenzen-hardelt.de/aeg-4p63.html
>
> Turkey:
>
> (from a good introduction into the subj. of
> Turkish numismatics:)
>
> <<Im Gegensatz zum Reichtum in Europa, wozu mehrere
> Tonnen Silber und Gold beitrug, die von spanischen und
> portugiesischen Seeleuten aus Amerika gebracht wurden,
> verlor die osmanische akçe aufgrund der Inflation zwischen
> 1585 und 1640 an Wert, so dass mehrere Münzstätten
> geschlossen werden mussten. In der Herrschaftszeit von
> Murat IV. wurde die „para" genannte Münze geprägt, die
> leichter als die akçe war. Es wurden nur noch in
> Konstantiniye und in den südlichen Provinzen Münzen
> geprägt.>>
> http://www.kultur.gov.tr/portal/tarih_de.asp?belgeno=5353
>
> Yugoslavia
> http://www.nbj.yu/english/7_0.htm
>
> George
>
> PS: there is no link betw. "cumparare" & "pará"
> other than the fact that once Romanians, too, made
> payments for goods and services by spending "paras"
> (in Rumanian, plural, "parale) among many other coins
> they had in use (both their own, minted on Romanian
> territory, or issued abroad, e.g. by Austria, Russia,
> Poland, Hungary).