[tied] Eric Hamp [Re: Dacian]

Hello !
I found some more Albanian words on the theme coming from the same
PIE root *sk^Œi- (to glimmer; shadow) as follow;
hyjni (God), hi (ash), hir (grace), hon (abyss).

It took me some times to figure out that what Pokorny gives as geg.
huj = Gott is in fact Alb. 'hyjni' and when he speaks about (h)ona =
Schatten he is in fact speaking of Alb. hon(i) (abyss).
I added hi (ash) to this group.

Alvin


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:

> Dear Alex
> Albanian hirrë "Kasewaser" is realy from *sker with at most

regular

> evolution of cluster sk- > h- (cf. Alb. i huaj < hon "foreig" and
> Greek ksenos through metathesis; Alb. hana "moon" < PIE *skand-;
> Alb. hije "shadow" (cf. Greek skia), Alb. hudra "garlic" (cf.

Grrek

> ta skorda "garlics"), Alb. hell "skewer" < PIE *sko:los, Alb. i
> hollë "thin" (cf. Greek skeleton), Alb. hap < *skep- "spalten"
> (Meyer, p.146), Alb. njoh "to know" < *gnosco, etc.
> I must confirm that hajvan "animal" is oriental loanword.
>
> Regards:
> Abdullah Konushevci
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...> wrote:
> > tolgs001 wrote:
> > > In:
> > >
> > > Eric Hamp, The Position of Albanian
> > > http://members.tripod.com/~Groznijat/balkan/ehamp.html
> >
> > that is the link I found too.
> >
> > >
> > > there is this sentence:
> > >
> > > <<For Salentine Greek, G. Rohlfs (Die Sprache 1959: 5.173-175)
> > > has proposed a Messapic etymon /*squeros/ for the word /skero/,
> > > and puts this in relation with Albanian /hirrë/ "Käsewasser.">>
> > >
> > > Can Romanian "zer" and "[zar&]" be seen in this relationship
> > > as well? ("zer"/"zară" mean "Käsewasser" - more or less)
> > >
> > > George
> >
> > I seen Romanian "zer" as the same as Latin "serum" and
> Albanian "hirrë".
> > The question is if Albanian "hirrë" can be from the same root as
> the
> > serum and zer.
> > We can try with "hagrep"= skorpion sakrep= skorpion where "h"
> < "s" and
> > with methathesis? Which is the ethymology of hagrep in Albanian?
> Upsss..
> > Did someone asked abotu the ethymology of "Zagreb"? seems to fit
> here:)
> > OK, is possible to have an albanian "h" from an "s"?
> > I ask it because there is romanian "saivan" and Alb. "haivan" ,
> romanian
> > "a sapa"= to dig, = Alb "hap"= to dig and much more. any

comments?

> >
> > alex