Re: [tied] GLEN AND ANATOLIA IN 7500BC

From: x99lynx@...
Message: 20178
Date: 2003-03-22

ALEX WROTE
<<Glen, in your opinion , where is the cradle of PIE to find?>>

GLEN REPLIED:
<<I'm now siding with Piotr. It would have been in the general environs of
Modern Ukraine up to about 4000 BCE.>>

Interesting. Here's the latest Piotr wrote about this, with which I also
fully agree:

EARLIER, PIOTR WROTE:(Tue Mar 18, 2003  4:19 am message 20176)
<<I side with Renfrew far more than I do with Mallory, and I accept the idea
that the IEisation of Central and Northern Europe had everything to do with
the initial spread of Neolithic cultures there. I simply don't go with him
all the way back to Anatolia, since I don't find enough linguistic evidence
to speculate about the location of pre-PIE.>>

My point of course was that neither Glen nor I can possibly know what was
going on linguistically in Anatolia in 7500BC:

I WROTE: (Tue Mar 18, 2003  11:03 pm)
<<The fact is that what languages were present in 2000BC can tell you little
or nothing about what was present or not present in Anatolia in 7500BC. You
have no way of knowing how many times the situation changed in 5000 years.>>

Steve Long