Re: [tied] Re: Troj ( it was ancient sources)

From: alex_lycos
Message: 20142
Date: 2003-03-21

Daniel J. Milton wrote:

> The sow is 'sus'. 'Mater' doesn't appear, that was Pete's joke
> on Alex's typo of "mater" for "matter" in his original posting

I understood it as a joke first time. But the second time when he said
about a scholar and stuff I tought he meant it to be true.

> The first asterisk in the Perseus text is to Servius, who comments
> that it was a 'monstrum' because it appeared "subito" and had
> thirty! pigs

A sow will have maximaly 12 pigglets:))

> The Troy business doesn't appear in Servius -- who was the
> scholiast, Pete?
> If the scholiast was right, then Vergil was truly being subtle,
> leaving it all to the reader (or scholiast) to figure out. I would
> think word play on 'troia' would call for the word at this point in
> the poem. Was this an old story Vergil expected his readers to
> know? Where did Servius get his thirty pigs?
> Dan

Dan, a question :

how reliable should be the Greek rhapsodes here? It is said that the
ionian-aeolian poets have had the situation of their time under the
eyes, so the words which are to find by Homer for toponyms and hydronims
in Troj, these should be the really Trojan toponyms and hydronims. How
much attention is to pay to a such statement?