[tied] Re: Mallory's New PIE Homeland?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Gerry" <waluk@...> wrote:

> Ned,
> Doesn't the dispersal of a language equate to its homeland?

Gerry,

No, one is where it started from, the other is where its descendants
ended up.

>You aren't looking for the "original" (or first) speaker of I-E,
>are you?

I'm not looking for anything ;-) , but those looking for the PIE
homeland are trying to determine where Proto-Indoeuropean was spoken
before it fragmented and its descendants' expansion into new
territory (as I understand it, there are good linguistic reasons for
supposing that the original PIE-speaking homeland could not be as
large as the subsequent areas inhabited by later speakers of IE
languages).

Ned

>
> Gerry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ehlsmith
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 1:18 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Mallory's New PIE Homeland?
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, x99lynx@... wrote:
> > Sorry for the late posting.
> >
> > I WROTE:
> > Renfrew puts "the IE Homeland" in Anatolia (he's not the first

- V.

> Gordon
> > Childe, who was the first major scholar to put PIE in the

Ukraine,

> changed
> > his mind later and put it in Anatolia, too). Mallory puts it

in

> the "Pontic
> > region" which turns out to be the Ukraine.
> >
> > "Gerry" <waluk@...> wrote (Tue Feb 11, 2003)
> > <<Actually Mallory places the IE homeland in a broad pathway
> extending from
> > the Atlantic to the Pontic regions. Anyhow, that's the map he
> created when
> > he spoke at Stanford last year.>>
> >
> > THIS is big news! I haven't seen anything else about this. Is

it

> published
> > anywhere? This would seem to be in fact incorporating a bit of
> Renfrew.
> >
> > Does anyone know anything more about this?
> >
> > Steve Long
>
> Sounds suspiciously like a map of his view of the dispersal of IE
> languages into Europe rather than of the PIE homeland per se,

IMHO.

>
> Ned Smith
>
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