Re: [tied] migration?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 19811
Date: 2003-03-13

The ultimate culprit is Johannes Trithemius, who invented Marcomir the Cimmerian (as historical as Conan the Barbarian) in his Hunibald's Chronicle forgery, late in the 15th century. The only authentic element here is the name Marcomir, which was indeen borne by some known Frankish noblemen. Nothing to do with Latin Marcus. Germanic *marka-/*marko: '(land)mark, boundary, borderland' is related to Latin margo:/marginis 'margin, border' and presumably to Celtic *mrogi- 'country'.

Piotr


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From: "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
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Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] migration?


> I have no ideea about any serious sources regarding the Marcomir. This
> is why I said I don't know where from is coming this word. The name
> Marcomir is given in several net pages, but I fell the need to
> underline, _ I did not read it in a ancient source or in the work of
> someone who could give us ancient sources for this name_.
>
> But just a game now. At least first part of the word "marco-" is to find
> in names / toponyms of indo-iranians too?
> As for european part, this is fully of it, even in celtic ( marco),
> latin ( marcus aurelius) , germanic ( marcomanii), thracian (marcodava),
> ?greek.. greek? Huh, do we miss a Greek variant of "marco"?