Re: [tied] "Simple" Future

From: Patrick C. Ryan
Message: 19160
Date: 2003-02-24

Dear Peter:

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> "he is to go" as a simple future
> > In what way is it "simple"?
>
> And it is also not really a "future" tense. It makes a statement about
> present obligation or expectation to perform a future action. It is not
> equivalent to "he will go". This is more than "future".

[PCR]
Trask denied (with others) that "he will go" is a simple future prediction, and claimed it had an intentional modality. He therefore claimed that English has no non-modal future.

Since the future has not yet occurred, a simple future should make a prediction without modal implications, and expectation is, on my opinion, simple prediction.

"Obligation" is conveyed by "shall" or "should".

If I write: "We are to have dinner at 5", I do not sense any obligatory modality.

Pat

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