Re: [tied] frog

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 19112
Date: 2003-02-23

I am afraid that Albanian cognat of the Latin word
bruscus, German frosch, rumanian brosc- must be
breshka "turtle", which in Albanian mythology has also
the meaning "nurse" (comp. portuguese bruxa "witch"),
according to evoluation of long vowel o to e and
regular evaluation of /-sk-/ > /-shk-/ (comp. Lat.
scalae > Alb. shkalla, Lat. scamnum > Alb. shk�mb,
etc.)
--- Jo�o Sim�es Lopes Filho <jodan99@...>
wrote:
> The word is "bruscus" in dialectal Latin, that is
> analyzed as **gWrodH-sko-,
> akin to batrakhos (<*brathakos < *gWRdH-nko-) and
> German krote.
> Some scholars link bruscus to Spanish
> bruja/Portuguese bruxa "witch".
>
> Joao SL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: alex_lycos <altamix@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 2:45 PM
> Subject: [tied] frog
>
>
> > frog - O.E. frogga, a dim. of frox, forsc, frosc
> "frog," from P.Gmc.
> > *fruska-z.
> > actual forms:
> > German: frosch
> > Norwegian: frosk
> > Albanian : bretk ( masculine bretk, feminine
> bretkos�)
> > Romanian : brosc- ( feminine 'broasca', masculine
> 'broscoi')
> >
> > The Latin form was "rana" ( but there is "ruscus"=
> toad, with an unclear
> > etymology), the Greek word is "bathrakos"
> > It seems that the originar form was with "br-"
> since the Germanic "f" is
> > originated more later and a Germanic "f" should be
> improbable to give an
> > "b" in Greek, Albanian and Romanian.
> > I am not sure if Greek "bathrakos" is a derived
> from the same root.
> > If the Greek word is from the same root, how are
> to explain the
> > differences here ?
> > germ:frosc
> > alb: bretk
> > rom: brosc
> > greek:bathracos
> > The Greek form has an "-ath-" between "b" and "r";
> the Albanian has an
> > "-etk" instead of an "-osc" like in Germanic and
> Romanian.
> > Which should be the root in this case?
> >
> >
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