Re: [tied] More nonsense: Is English /d/ truely voiced?

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:02:01 +0000, "Glen Gordon"
<glengordon01@...> wrote:

>
>Peter:
>>If that were truly (using a more conventional spelling) the case,
>>then we could not hear the difference between words with voiced
>>medial /t/ and those with medial /d/. But in dialects which do
>>voice medial /t/, speakers distinguish readily between the two.
>
>Hunh? Do you have an example of what you mean?
>

metal vs. medal. See for instance Ladefoged "A course in phonetics",
p. 55. "Many Americans do not distinguisg between pairs of words
containing this sound [an alveolar tap/flap], such as "latter,
ladder". But some maintain a distinction by having a shorter vowel in
words such as "latter" which have a voiceless consonant in their
underlying form"

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