Brian argues (quite literally) with a quote from L&M:
> It is well known that in some languages, English being a
> familiar example, the vocal folds may not vibrate
> throughout the closure for a voiced stop.
In other words, the vocal folds **may** not vibrate **throughout** the
closure for a voiced stop -- or rather, they are partially voiced as was
stated in the link I supplied. The major difference between /d/ and /t/
in English is truely voicing.
>(A native speaker of English who uses 'seldom' as an adjective?!)
Yes, Mr Know-it-all, I'm a native speaker of English who proudly uses
"seldom" as an adjective.
If it helps, I was born in Winnipeg, in the province of Manitoba, in the
glorious (but partially communist) country of Canada. Speech patterns where
I'm from may be different than in your area. Winnipeg has a history of
English-French bilingualism and a large Cree population. There are probably
many other geographical and historical factors that play a part in my manner
of speaking that rub you the wrong way.
- gLeN
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