Re: [tied] something

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From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] something


> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:42:34 +0100, "alex_lycos" <altamix@...>
> wrote:
>
> >Hmm.. it sounds very intersting
> >I have no grammair of Rom. Lang here and I guess I make a very big
> >mistake. If I don't , then for "ce" in Rom. Lang there is too a such
> >kind of declination:
> >
> >N= ce, cine
> >G= ceva , cineva
>
> <ceva> is _definitely_not_ the genitive of ce. It's a different
> pronoun, meaning "something". I have no information on the etymology
> of the particle -va, but an educated guess would be that it's simply
> the verbal form va, vrea "wants, will". Cf. Spa. cualquiera, Cat
> qualsevol "anything"
>
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...


you are right in your assumption. DEX gives it as follows:
ceva= "ce" + "va"
va= va (1)
a) popular form of "vrea".
b) element which in a stadium of the language served for making composed
words like " ceva, candva, undeva, cumva" ( see Albanian too)

va= va(2) from latin "vadit" in expresion as "mai va"= it will takes
still a lot of time.

Question: which should be the genitive of "ce" then?

Alex