Re: [tied] something

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 18603
Date: 2003-02-08

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Subject: Re: [tied] something


> N= ce, cine
> G= ceva , cineva
> D= cui, cuiva
> A= pe ce, pe cine

The Slavic forms are not that similar:

nom./acc. *c^Ito (enclitic *c^I)
gen. *c^eso/*c^Iso/*c^ego (/-v-/ only in Russ.)
dat. *c^emu
ins. *c^imI
loc. *c^emI

The similarity of the initial is hardly surprising: it's the same old *kW, delabialised and palatalised independently.

> If this is not wrong it appears very strange the same "ce" in genitive "ceva" like in Slavic

Not so strange at all. The suffix <-va> in <ce-va, cine-va, cum-va, unde-va> etc. marks indefiniteness and is not a genitive ending at all. As far as I know, it developed from an enclitic variant of 'wish, want' (modern <vrea>).

Piotr