Re: [tied] Re: yellow

From: alex_lycos
Message: 18058
Date: 2003-01-25

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From: "P&G" <petegray@...>
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Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: yellow

> > <<"Romanian "alb" cannot be of
> > Latin origin, since in the territory of the ancient Dacian-Moesian-
> > Thracian & Illyrian populations there were toponyms such as
> > "Alboca", as well as populaces known (in Latin) as "Albocensi">>
> This is a poor piece of logic. The existence of "alb-" in some
> does not stop Romanians continuing to use the Latin word Albus as
> either with the same or with different meaning
> Peter

why are you sure the Romanian "alb" is Latin "albus"? Just because of
the root or why? I should like to hear what is the big argument which
say : look there, there is no other possibility because of .............
The question should be put in another way here. If the Rom. "alb" is
form Latin then, because of the big family of this word in Latin
language, it should be expected that the Rom. lang. should have not only
the Latin root , but some of the derivatives as well.
So , let us take a look:
Latin -> Rom.
albatus= dressed in white , Rom=? ( imbracat in alb)
albeo= to be white, albente caleum= beim Morgengrauen, Rom=? ( in zorii
albesco= to make white, rom = "a înalbi" or "a albi"
albi-capillus= whyte haired, Rom. ? ( cu pãrul alb)
albitudo, albitinis= the white ( das Weiß), rom. "alb"
albulus= whitely, rom. albicios, alburiu
In DEX is given the form "albumen"= the white of the egg. In Romanian
the white of the egg is "albuS". So, even this one is not the direct
correspondent of Latin word.
The given explanation is that the romances developed other suffixes and
with these suffixes they did not use anymore the Latin suffixes but
builded new words with the new suffixes.
Here you have all Rom, derivatives of "alb":
înãlbi, albi, albuS, albicios, alburiu, albicios, albiciune, albeatsã,
albilitsa, albit, albitura, albuts, albei, albui,

So, which is the principal argument that Rom. "alb-" _must be_ the Latin