Re: das Wort

From: tgpedersen
Message: 16946
Date: 2002-11-30

--- In cybalist@..., "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 14:35:24 -0000, "tgpedersen"
> > <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > >--- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
> > >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Miguel Carrasquer
> > >> To: cybalist@...
> > >> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 12:55 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [tied] das Wort
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Perhaps then Germanic (ga-)warr- "confusion" (> Pol.
> > >gwar "turmoil, fuss")? Not sure if it's in Gothic, but since it
> also
> > >gives Romance *gwerra "war", it was apparently available.
> > >>
> > >> But isn't the Gmc. root *wers-/*werz-? If so, EGmc. *ga-werzan-

> > >doesn't fit.
> > >>
> > >> Piotr
> > >
> > >Odd. Y'all have just discussed, by some coincidence, two words
> > >containing an unwanted dental suffix, <salt> and <word>.
> >
> > The *-d in salt may be odd, but what's unwanted about *dh in
> > word/verbum?
>
> Many may want it; but if it went away it the remainder would fit
> Slavic govor- .
>
> >
> > =======================
> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal

I just looked up the various cognates of "aware" (PIE *wer-) in Falk
& Torp. Seems the original meaning was (surprise) "aware of", thus
*war-jan, *war-nan "make aware", or in other words "point out st. to
sby". That fits "speak" (as in govor-) much better.

>
> Torsten