Re: [tied] again gW>b and getae

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] again gW>b and getae


> Avec plaisir, but show me your data first. Which particular
hydronyms exhibit this change?
>
> Piotr
>
In Dacia : Apus (Appion), Naparis, Aparus,
On the illirian coast: Apus, Zald-apa, Apila, Aponus, Apsus,
Col-apia, Met-apa.
It seems weird but in thrace ( south of Haemus) we do not find
such hidronimes.
The corespondence with "apa" is to find just in dacia, moesia
inferior, moesia superior, dalmatia, ilira, dardania.

Toponimes:
Dacia. Apulon (Apulum, Apula), Capora(Cepora), Napoca(Napuca),
Tapa(Tapae),
Ilirian coast:Apulia
Moesia Inferior: Appiara(Apiareia, Appiaria), Capidava,
Zaldapa(Zaldava,Zeldepa),
The seem thing here, in Thrace south of Haemus are too, no
such kind of names.

if the groups kW and gW have in the same language separate
evolution kinda kw>k and gW>b then it seems the big
clasification centum/satem is not working properly or there
must be other explanation. Not only Vinereanu said that but
Cicerone Poghirc too.

And If we take a look at the neolitic population of balcans
and the greek substrate ( the so-called pelasgian) and the
toponimes and hidronimes of europe before the greeks, we learn
they belong to IE-languages.
That woul mean the IE spreaders must impused their language
before neolitic in Europe or, the neolitic people of Europa
spoked IE languages.