Re: [tied] latin "ac"

----- Original Message -----
From: "P&G" <petegray@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] latin "ac"


>
> > <atque ~ ac> means more or less "as well as", "and also",
"together with"
> or "and >moreover".
>
> Ac and et are not quite identical in Latin. Ac joins things
or ideas which
> are felt to share some kind of connection, whereas et does
not have this
> connotation. So if we have Gothi ac Gepidae, then at least
in the best
> Classical Latin, this would mean the author felt the two
tribes were similar
> or in some way "obviously" belonging together. But I
suspect the author was
> not writing Classical Latin...
>
> Peter

[Moeller]
how I said, i was verifying some things in Gesta Hungarorum
of Anonymous. And there it must be medieval latin.
Of course because goths and gepidae are germanic folks we
intend to think there would be a try to put them in the same
top meaning "the same". But if there should be " gothi ac
cumani" we will run away from this tought because none will be
so crazy to try to make an asociation and to put in teh same
pot goths and cummans:)
So far I see , I have to interprete this "ac" as "and" and not
" an another name for X beeing Y" or " X called sometimes Y "
or " X said to be Y", right?