Re: [tied] Let dogs have their day too

--- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@..., Piotr Gasiorowski
> <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
> wrote:
>
> >>Russ. sobaka [also Ukr. sobaka and Bel. sabaka --
> S.T.](not a pan-
> Slavic word) is generally assumed to be a loan from
> Iranian, but it
> appears to be relatively modern (_not_ from Scythian
> or Sarmatian)
> and perhaps not _directly_ from Iranian.

******GK: How modern? Would you include the Alans
among the Sarmatians? If so "post-Sarmatian" might
mean "after ca. 1250" (when Alans were pushed out of
the steppes and foothills into the Caucasian interior
and became Ossetian)? If not directly from Iranian, I
wonder what might have been the intermediary? Some
Turkic dialect?******

>
> Vasmer argues that Polish dial. (Upper Silesia) and
> Kashubian
> _sobaka_ can't be loans from East Slavic "for
> geographical reasons",
> by I don't see his point.

*****GK: Because Kashubian and Upper Silesian Pol.
dial. are divided from East Slavic areas by other
Polish speeches which don't have this word?*****

>
> Sergei
>
>

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