From: Jens Elmegaard Rasmussen
Message: 15791
Date: 2002-09-30
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 16:35:31 +0200 (MET DST), Jens Elmegaard RasmussenMostly yes, but not here, and I did not say it could or should. I just say
> <jer@...> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> >
> >> In connection with this, a question: why is the acc.pl. in Lithuanian
> >> subject to
> >> Saussure's law? Where does the acute intonation come from... the
> >> a:-stems?
> >
> >It was restored: o-stems had IE *-o:ns, so a-stems got *-a:ns, both
> having
> >acute, in Lith. as well as in Greek.
>
> Let's go a bit slower, because I don't quite follow. OK, there is a
> tendency in
> Greek o- and a:-stems for the casu:s recti to have acute (mikrós, mikrón;
> mikroí, mikroús;; mikrá, mikrán; mikraí, mikrás), and the oblique cases
> circumflex (mikroû, mikrôi; mikrôn, mikroîs; mikrâs, mikrâi; mikrôn,
> mikraîs).
> But that is because the oblique cases are mostly contractions (*-o-syo >
> *-oio,
> *-o-ei, *-o-om, [dat.pl. *-o:is]; *-a:-os, *-a:-ei, *-a:-om [dat.pl.
> analogical]), and the nom/acc/voc. forms are not (*-o-s, *-o-m, *-o-i,
> *-o-ns;
> *-a:, *-a:-m, [nom.pl. analogical], *-a:-ns).
>
> Can the Greek acute be equated just like that with the Lithuanian acute?
> OneThe Greek -oí and the Lith. -ì, -íe-ji are relevant in showing that plain
> might say they are almost each other's opposites: in Greek, one has acute
> unless
> there are reasons for a circumflex (contractions, lengthened long vowels,
> etc.)... In Lithuanian, one has a circumflex, unless there are reasons
> to have
> an acute (laryngeals, Winter-lengthening, etc.)...
>
> So *how* exactly is it relevant that Greek has an acute in the nom. and
> acc.
> plural? I'll admit right away that the match is indeed remarkable (not
> so in
> the singular, however), especially if as I remember the Lith. adjective,
> unlike
> the noun in -a~i, is subject to Saussure's law in the nom.pl. -ì as
> well...
>The Slavic evidence only says it was a strong case with recessive accent.
> >The IE acc.pl af *aH2-stems appears
> >to have had no nasal, cf. Sanskrit -a:s, Goth. -o:s and even Latvian -as
> >for both nom.pl and acc.pl. This must reflect some peculiar development
> of
> >the underlying *-eH2-m-s, perhaps akin to the treatment of -V:ms as in
> >Sanskrit ma:s 'meat' (stem ma:ms-) and the m-stem nom.sg seen in Skt.
> >ks.a:s (Av. zå) 'earth' and Av. ziiå 'winter'. The phenomenon goes under
> >the name of Stang's Law, but Stang actually did not express any strong
> >faith in the idea (Kurylowicz Festschrift of 1965). The merger or
> >near-merger of the nom.pl and the acc.pl in the a-stems had the funny
> >effect in Slavic that the restored accusative moved into the nom.pl, and
> >from there also into the homophonous (or near-homophonous) gen.sg, which
> >also both became -y with a-stems and -(j)eN with ja-stems.
>
> But in Slavic the acc.pl. is not acute, judging by golová, gólovy.