Re: [tied] Re: south slavic

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From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
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Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: south slavic


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> > How OK , and perfectly in the historical picture is that
the romanians have few slavic words from the ancient slavs, if
we remember that in the VII century the slavs from Dacia after
their defeat by gepidae, were "forced" to move south of
Danube.
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> By the Gepidae? In the _seventh_ century? Something is wrong
here: either the people or the date.

[Moeller]
I tought same way as I read it first. You dont have to think I
mystypped here, but I give you a text from the book of Mr.
Mun-Suh-Lee, " Zur Entstehung des Rumänischen", Schäuble
Verlag, 1986

"Zu beginn der zweiten Hälfte des 7. Jhs. gab es eine
Auseinandersetzung zwischen den Slaven und den Gepiden. Die
slaven wurden bei den Kämpfen durch den wohl von den Awaren
unterstützten Gepiden vernichtend geschlagen und gezwungen aus
Dakien auszuwandern."


> Why? When the Vlachs first appear as a significant ethnos in
the Byzantine records, it's in coexistence with the Slavic
Bulgarians in what is now northern Greece and southern
Bulgaria, then expanding north. Who says they borrowed Slavic
words while still in their "cradle"?

[Moeller] Hey, that is nice your word here. "Significant
ethnos". That is indeed nice. That means that "somewhere" was
a littel group of romanized population which rezisted to
everything, even to slavs, and they got bigger and bigger and
bigger for becaming the largest folk of the balcan. That will
be a wonderfully prescription for making much bred with few
meal but will it work for a folk? That means this little group
was so strong that it rumanized everything north of danube as
they migrated there.But if they were so strong, why did not
remained in moesia foar assimilating and rumanizating the
future bulgars and serbo-croatian?:-))
The simple fact they have both old slavic and bulgarian should
be a hint. Isnt it?