Re: [tied] Re: Kastamonitu

From: george knysh
Message: 15289
Date: 2002-09-08

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <piotr.gasiorowski@...>
> I have to rely on my memory, having no relevant
> sources to hand, but it seems to me that the names
> actually recorded look more like Rhyncini,
> Blacoryncini and Saguditae (or Sagudatae),
> interpretable respectively as Rhyncians (people
> living on the river Rhyncus; ethnic identification
> impossible, possibly Slavic bands), Vlacho-Rhyncians
> and ... well, hard to say, though the people were
> mentioned more than once, I think. I know nothing
> about them. The name looks as if it had the familiar
> Iranian plural suffix. Alanic reinforcements in the
> eighth century?? When were the Alani last heard of
> in the Balkans, George?

*****GK: Unless I've missed something, the last
mention of Alans in the Balkans occurs in Jordanes
(Get.265-266):"certi Alanorum eum duce suo nomine
Candac Scythiam minorem inferioremque Moesiam
acceperunt. cuius Candacis Alanoviiamuthis patris mei
genitor Paria, id est meus avus, notarius; quousque
Candac ipse viveret, fuit," The events alluded to are
posterior to the disintegration of the Attilanic Hun
state (454->). We may perhaps assume that the Candac
group [specific tribal name unknown] was still
identifiable in the mid-6th century. We hear no more
about them subsequently. They may have been absorbed
by the Slavs who poured into Scythia Minor a
generation or two after Jordanes wrote. And the
proto-Bulgar horde may have contained Alanic clans
(some proto-Bulgar names, incl. Asparukh, hint at
Iranic contacts), but nothing major.******

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