Re: [tied] dinte=dentis

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 15056
Date: 2002-09-03

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 00:16:56 +0200, alexmoeller@... wrote:

>From: "Miguel Carrasquer" <mcv@...>
>Tooth, PIE *h1dónts, G. *h1dénts (OIr. dét, We. dant, Lat.
>de:ns, Goth. tunTus,
>ON tOnn, OE tóT, OHG zand, Lith dantìs, Grk. ódo:n, odóntis,
>Arm. atamn, Av.
>dantan-, Skt. dánt-). The Slavic word zo~bU (dim. zo~bIcI) is
>from PIE *g^ombh-
>(> English comb, German Kamm), which means "tooth" in Slavic,
>Tocharian <kam>
>and Albanian <dhëmb>.

>[Moeller] thank you Miguel
>If I suppose romanian zimtz commes from g^ombh I need just to
>explan the "tz" here because the rules works.
>"o" diftongated in romanian and there is an "jo"

Where is there a "jo"? /o/ did not *not* diphthongize to "jo" in Romanian (nor
in any other language I know, as a matter of fact). /o/ may diphthongize to
/oa/, but not here.

>so, under the influence of this "jo" "g^" became africatized and we got a
>zimb g^ombh>zimb

Nonsense. I notice you have completely ignored Albanian dhëmb (Gheg dhãmb),
which is odd for someone on the look-out for substrate influences even when
they're not there (as in this case).

>I have no ideea how to get the last "tz" here

From the Slavic diminutive suffix -IcI (-(e)c) of course, as the word is a
borrowing from Slavic. The problem is the /i/, where I would expect *zîmtz.
Influence from <dinte>?

>If I suppose romanian zimtz come from h1dents then d under
>influence of diftong from "e" became "z" and I have zints.

In Romanian /E/ (< Latin short e) becomes /e/ and further /i/ before a nasal
cluster. Hence <dinte> (not *zente) from Lat. <dente>.

Miguel Carrasquer Vidal