Re: [tied] a help for Piotr

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 14984
Date: 2002-09-03

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From: Miguel Carrasquer
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] a help for Piotr

>>, ori rom. boier, lit. bajoras, alb.bujar, precum si
>sansc. bharu.

> I very much doubt the Skt. has anything to do with this, but I don't have the
time to dig into the etymology of these words.
The Lith. word is most likely a loan from Russian (bojar-, bojarin), while the Rom. and Alb. words are from Serb. boljar, both source words meaning 'nobleman, lord' and both being in turn Turkic loans involving what was originally the Turkic plural suffix <-lar> (bay-lar > boljar). I suppose in Russian the word became secondarily associated with <boj> 'fight' Whatever the ultimate etymology of Skt. bHaru-, it has absolutely nothing to do with boyars.