Re: [tied] Bangani

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 14736
Date: 2002-08-29

<kOtrO> is supposedly related to Celtic *catu- and Germanic *xaþu- (OE heaþu) 'battle', with an *-r- extension visible in German Hader 'quarrel', Balto-Slavic (OCS kotora 'fight', Lith. kata~ryti 'beat') and Sanskrit (<s'atru-> 'enemy'). The Balto-Slavic words may be Centum loans themselves, and the ultimate reconstruction would then be *k^at-u- ~ *k^at-(o)r- (Pokorny's *k^at- 'fight, struggle). This works for the Bangani substrate, but not for Romanian, since if you divide <cotropi> or <cutropi> into <cotro-> and <-pi-> the latter cannot be accounted for (as Miguel said, there's no such suffix). If one wants to etymologise it, the most promising starting point is to analyse it as <co-/cu-> (a familiar prefix) plus <-trop-> and then try to explain the latter. If that doesn't work, there's little hope than anything else will.
----- Original Message -----
From: alexmoeller@...
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Bangani

1)Bangani "kOtro" has the same composition in your way to see
it: co=sufix, tro=root
   cotropiin romanian co=prefix, tro=root, pi=?
2)what does speak against "tro" beeing a root and what does
speak for "trop" beeing a root?
3)the rumanian word has an unknown ethymology, could not be
linked to any latin word, or slavic or german or hungarian or
turcic. They tried everyone who once was hunting in Balcans ,
but nothing found:-)