Re: [tied] Re: IRMIN

From: Gerry Reinhart-Waller
Message: 13355
Date: 2002-04-18

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From: tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: IRMIN


--- In cybalist@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
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> Subject: [tied] Re: I, Hercules [was: A "Germanic" query] IRMIN
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> >> [Piotr] As the name "Alani" proves, the development of *arya- in
Alanic was different from that in Persian. Besides, the initial vowel
is short in Germanic; it can't represent *e: < *ai (*airiia-).
> > [Torsten] Ah, now I get it. In Alanian <aryaman> would be
<alaman>?
>
> Not quite. The development of NE Iranian vowels is very sensitive
to the original vowel length and syllable structure: *aryaman- >
*æliman-, more or less.
>
> Piotr

So in Alanian *arya- develops into /ala-/, as in <Alanian>, and
*aryaman- into *æliman-. Is this, more or less, a case of the
famous /man/-umlaut?

Torsten


I heard in some lecture hall many centuries ago that these Alans (Alani)
people were Iranians who migrated from Central Asia to the northern
Caucasus. They are the eaternmost division of the Sarmatians and are the
Iranian nomads with some Altaic admixture. Could however be pure
balderdash.

Gerry Reinhart-Waller