Re: [tied] Greek "angos"

> >
> > I'm about to have angioplasty for my angina -- two words almost
> > next to each other in the English dictionary, but which I was
> > surprised to find are quite unrelated. I'm comfortable with the
> > word "angina" (the actuality isn't too comfortable), ultimately
> from
> > I.-E. "angh" painful constriction, related to English "anger",
> > "anxiety", and German "Angst". "Angio-" blood vessel, is from

the

> > Greek "angeion" used post-classically for quite a variety of
> > hollow body parts, a diminutive of "angos" vessel, used by
> > Homer for kitchenware. But the references I have handy go no
> > further. Is there an I.-E. etymology? Or was the word from a
> > pre-Hellenic culture? Any information appreciated.
> > Dan Mi

--- In cybalist@..., "danjmi" <dmilt1896@...> wrote:
> Thank you, Piotr, for your prompt reply to my inquiry
about "angos",
> and tgpedersen for your extensive (overextensive?) list of
worldwide
> reflexes of H-N-G.
> I offer as a double warning against being tricked by superficial
> verbal similarities that the angioscopy for my etymologically
> unrelated angina found stenosis (> another Greek word of no
> convincing etymology?) of a coronary artery, now corrected by a
stent
> (> Charles Stent 19th Century English dentist).
> Anyway, I hope it keeps me around to enjoy Cybalist and other
> pleasures a few more years.
>
>
>
> > The "constrictor" root *h2ang^H- is treated at:
> >
> > http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE18.html
> >
> > There are also cognates in Slavic (*o~zU-(k-) 'narrow') and
> Indo-Aryan (aMhu- 'narrow', both from *h2ang^H-u-), and I'm sure in
> other branches as well.
> >
> > I don't know of a convincing etymology of <angos> or of any
> extra-Greek cognates.
> >
> > Piotr
> >

I wish you a long life following your operation. David Letterman
seems to be doing OK (and, true to form, I would like to remind
everyone that heavy metals may induce calcification of arteries).
Thank you for the double warning, which I would appreciate if I knew
what the reasons were that you were bringing forth (perhaps my
reference was too extra-Greek)? Personally I think that those two
roots are related.

For *angio- "vessel" perhaps "narrow vessel" is original?

I had an idea of what might be the original connection
between "narrow" and "fear" and "snake". Perhaps it is the action of
snake venom, ascribed originally to some parallel non-
physical "spiritual" world (which actually was an ontological dustbin
for the things you couldn't explain using the then known physical
principles). Cf. the term "spirits" (originally "spiritus vini" for
that which causes the "spiritual" effects (ie. drunkenness) when
ingesting the "physical" fluid, wine. In other words, the spiritual
essence of wine, obtained by purifying (in alchemical thinking)
through distillation. And "spiritus" itself is breath, that is, the
breath of life, that which was seen as the soul itself, which departs
from the physical body in "the last breath"

Torsten