--- In cybalist@..., "altamix" <altamix@...> wrote:
> I should like to speak more about albanian history and how i said,
to learn
> something mor about these Skiperi:))
>
> Best Regards,
>
> A. Moeller
Hello !
Albanian history books make Albanians the last survivors of Illyrian
people. As far as I know this is still what the major part of
historicians and linguists think. The problem with the Illyrian
language is the same as with the Dacian, Thracian etc, there is a
little left behind. This produces a lot of new theories.
Personally I don´t mind if the ancestors of Albanians were Illyrians,
Thracians, Dacians or any other old people of Balkan as long as this
little Balkan is the place of our origin. So they would not be
called "immigrants" as like, among others, our slav neighbours, as
Serb nationalists, even academists, call the Albanians of Kosovo,
producing an excuse to expell the entire Albanian population, of this
Balkans region, because it is occupying "their heart".
Coming back to history, since Albanian was not written, even
forbidden time after time by different occupators (my surname is a
Turkish one because it was forbidden to speak Albanian in the city of
my ancestors, people only spoke Albanian at home, also within the
family), like Piotr have said before, it is hard to say how the old
Albanian looked like.
As you know Albanians do not call themselves Albanians but Shqiptarë
and the land Shqipëri (Tosk), Shqypni (Geg).
But old river names in present day Albania like Drin or Shkumbin are
full of meaning even in today Albanian whether this is a coincidence
or not. If I am not mistaken the old name was Drinoi or Drinos, and
this is associated with Albanian word 'ndrin', 'to shine', 'to
reflect' also 'it shines', 'it reflects' and that is what the water
does :)
If I am still not mistaken the old name for Shkumbin river was
Scumpi. Shkumbin is associated with the phrase "shkumë bin".
Shkumë 'foam' , bin-bjen 'to bring', 'brings'. Also this furious
river brings foam with it because it has to beat the rocks on it´s
way down from the mountains.
An other exemple would be the city of Kruja, in central Albania, once
the capital of Arbëresh-ë, as Albanians were called at that time. The
name of the city is said to derive from the one of these forms 'kro'
or 'kru'. Both of them 'kru-a' and 'kro' are the Albanian names
for 'water source'. Also it was the water source which brought the
people there and made them build around it.
Also I personally see a connection to the word 'door' in the name of
the harbour city of Durrës (Durrahium or Dyrrhachium). Though in
today Albanian it is called 'der-' it might have been called 'dur' in
proto-Albanian. So, the harbour was the door between inside (land,
home) and outside (sea, other countries). Or is there any better
explanation through Latin or Old Greek ?
Alvin