Re: [tied] Re: [pieml] PIE rhotacism

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From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal

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Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 6:44 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Re: [pieml] PIE rhotacism

>> Anttila connects <aga-> (*'contest, game') as in <aga-klutos> with <ago:n>, regarding the latter as originally collective.

 

> But in any case a masculine collective.

 

Secondarily "animatised". The original neuter would have been *h2ag^n, cf. <to kHeima : ho kHeimo:n>.

> Yes.  I wanted to mention that.  The feminine ending *-ih2 (like the thematic ending *-os) is often found after an *-r which by by the heteroclitic rule must come from *-n.  [The same, BTW, goes for the *-s that comes from *-t(W) (e.g. the pf.act.ptc. *-us-ih2)].  Both *-ih2 and *-os can be regarded as postponed (p)articles that were not univerbated until after the working of the heteroclitic rule.  So indeed the effect of the Auslaut-rule *-n > *-r can sometimes be seen in what appears to be an Inlaut position.  But I'm not sure whether it's necessary to include here a form like <ageiro:>.

 

What puzzles me a little is what exactly those (p)articles were attached to. For example, *-wer-ih2 is hard to analyse as *-wer#-ih2, since *-wer does not occur independently. It looks more like word-formation (affecting the ablaut of the base) than banal agglutination.

 

Piotr