Re: [tied] -st-suffix in PIE

From: tgpedersen@...
Message: 11101
Date: 2001-11-07

--- In cybalist@..., "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:
> > Hmm, it kinda reminds me of *pnkW-sti- "fist" (or literally,
> > "fiveful"?). Actually, what is *-sti- doing there anyway?
> > A collective suffix? That could make sense for "hen". Does
> > *xwi-st-ax suit your fancy? Sadly, I don't know as much
> > about BaltoSlavic languages as I should.
>
> - gLeN
>
> Yes, it suits nice formally, and *xwi- demonstrates the same nil-
grade
> as *pnkW- does. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the -st-
i-
> semantics as well, though collectiveness can be supported
> typologically: at any rate, -ah2 is collective itself, cf. also
Russ.
> z^ens^c^ina 'woman' < *z^ena 'id.' + a collective suffix -*Ist-j- +
an
> abstract feature's suffix -*in-. This *-Ist-j- resembles me -*st-i-.
>
> Sergei

I don't know if this Danish example is helpful:

sg pl collective
høne høner høns "hen"

This has always puzzled me. This is the only collective forms in -s
(or collective at all) in Danish.

Torsten