Re: [tied] Re-evaluating Dereivka and Yamna

From: lsroute66@...
Message: 10305
Date: 2001-10-16

--- In cybalist@..., george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> *****GK: Could you direct me to a source describing
> what exactly was done in the matter of this redating?
> I'd appreciate this very much.

"Anthony and Brown (2000) Eneolithic horse exploitation in the
Eurasian steppes, ANTIQUITY 74, 75-86 has the new C14 dates from it.
The original dates given for it was 3300 BC. The new lab dates on it
put it up around the 1st century BC. As they note, it looks like it
was a pit deposit that had nothing to do with the Neolithic levels of
the site."

> But apart from this,
> we know that: (1)Dereivka is definitely a "horse"
> settlement in terms of the animal bone remains [of
> 3232 bone parts and splinters discovered there about
> 74% are of the horse (Telegin, p. 133)]

If this is suppose to refer to neolithic Dereivka, these numbers are
in conflict with Zwelbil's report in "Europe's First Farmers", ed by
T. Douglas Price, (Cambridge UP 2000).

Zwelbil mentions an enclosure that might be evidence of horse-breeding
but nothing more. The domesticates that start appearing with ceramic
agriculture soon seem to make up most of the bones that were found in
that period.

Ste