Re: [tied] Re-evaluating Dereivka and Yamna

--- markodegard@... wrote:

> EIEC has an article, "Dereivka" which mentions the
> controversy. The
> horse in question is said to date from "c. 2900, too
> recent for easy
> assignment with the other Dereivka dates but too old
> for those who
> regard it as a very late deposition of the Bronze
> Age." (p. 177)

****GK: So EIEC does not accept the new 1rst c. BC
dating reported by Anthony in his ANTIQUITY article.
The issue is still debatable as far as they're
concerned? On balance though it doesn't really
matter.*****

>
> Everything of recent date which I've read tends to
> discount this
> horse, and its value for dating domestication.

*****GK: On its own the horse head means nothing,
whatever the date assigned to it, since there is no
reported evidence that it was not a captured wild
horse.*****

>
> We are still a long way from firmly establishing a
> date for horse
> domestication, tho' I think somewhere around 3000
> BCE is not
> unreasonable. Riding a horse bareback, with just a
> primitive bridle is
> enough to completely revolutionize the management of
> free-range stock
> on the steppe (it in fact permits free-ranging
> stock).

*****GK That is the conclusion the bits found at
Dereivka lead one to. The horse head seemed like icing
on the cake but it's not really necessary for the
point to be made. But if it's the bits that count then
the date could easily be older than 3000 BC. The
Dereivka site has been linked to Trypillja
(Tripolye)BII by ceramic imports thereto.*****

>

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